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Captain John Williams[1, 2, 3]

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  • Name John Williams 
    Prefix Captain 
    Born 1865  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Christened 7 May 1865  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    Gender Male 
    Census 2 Apr 1871  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [9] 
    Wales 
    Census 3 Apr 1881  Penzance, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [10] 
    England 
    Occupation 3 Apr 1881  Penzance, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [10] 
    O R Seaman 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    Wales 
    Occupation 5 Apr 1891  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    Master Mariner 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    Wales 
    Occupation Sea Captain 
    Occupation 31 Mar 1901  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    Master Mariner 
    Residence 31 Mar 1901  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    2 Cliffside 
    Died 1937  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Headstones Submit Headstone Photo Submit Headstone Photo 
    Person ID I832  The Williams Family Tree
    Last Modified 19 Jul 2020 

    Father Captain John William Williams
              b. 1833, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 9 Oct 1906  (Age 73 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Morris
              b. 28 Jul 1838, Dolgellau, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Abt 1870  (Age 31 years) 
    Relationship unknown 
    Married 1863  Dolgellau, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    Address:
    n/a Dolgellau, Merionethshire, Wales
    Dolgellau, Merionethshire
    Wales 
    • Possible Registration of a Marriage:
      Mar 1863, Dolgelly, Merionethshire, Volume 11b, Page 563:
      John WILLIAMS + Elizabeth MORRIS
    Registration Mar 1863  Dolgellau, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [13] 
    Marriage 
    Address:
    n/a Dolgellau, Merionethshire, Wales
    Dolgellau, Merionethshire
    Wales 
    • Volume 11b, Page 563
    Family ID F361  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Margaret Owen
              b. 25 Jun 1874, Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 8 Apr 1904  (Age 29 years) 
    Registration Between 1 Jan 1897 and 31 Mar 1897  Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [14] 
    Marriage 
    • Volume 11b Page 69
    Married 10 Feb 1897  Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [15] 
    • Shiloh Chapel
    Children 
     1. John Morris Williams
              b. 11 Sep 1899, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 8 Feb 1960, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)  [unknown]
     2. Richard Owen Williams
              b. Oct 1900, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 5 Jun 1911  (Age ~ 10 years)
    Last Modified 19 Jul 2020 
    Family ID F407  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Jane Ellen Evans
              b. 21 Apr 1862
              d. 22 Jul 1933, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years) 
    Registration Between 1 Jul 1906 and 30 Sep 1906  Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [16] 
    Marriage 
    • Volume 11b Page 83
    Married 3 Jul 1906  Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 17] 
    • Shiloh Chapel,
    Last Modified 19 Jul 2020 
    Family ID F406  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    doveybelle.jpg    		doveybelle.jpg

    BMD Certificates
    Baptism for John WILLIAMS (832)    		Baptism for John WILLIAMS (832)

    Census
    1871 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire    		1871 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire
    RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87 Page 2
    1871 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire    		1871 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire
    RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87 Page 1
    1881 England Census for Penzance, Cornwall    		1881 England Census for Penzance, Cornwall
    RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8b
    1881 England Census for Penzance, Cornwall    		1881 England Census for Penzance, Cornwall
    RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8a
    1891 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire    		1891 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire
    RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 44 Page 2
    1901 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire    		1901 Wales Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire
    RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 37 Page 16

  • Notes 
    • From the 1871 Census (RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87), John, 6, is aboard the vessel Mersey in Aberdovey with his father, John, 36, the Master of the Mersey. They were both born in Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales.

      From the 1881 Census (RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8), John, 16, is again with his father, John, 48. This time they are aboard the vessel Jane Owens in Penzance Cornwall. John senior is Married and is the Master and John junior is Unmarried and an OR(dinary) Seaman. The rest of the crew are the Mate, David Evans, Married, 25 another A B Seaman, Richard Morgan, Unmarried, 19 and the Boy, John Thomas, Unmarried, 14. The entire crew hail from Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales.

      Captain of 'Dovey Belle' built in 1867 Reportedly lost off Pembrokeshire on July 17th 1909 DOVEY BELLE. (ABERYSTWYTH). Schooner. 2 masted. Near Grassholm. [Source http://www.dive-pembrokeshire.com/wreck1.html]

      Captain of 'Sarah Davies' F.R.A.S. and F.R.G.S.

      From the 1891 Census (RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 44 Page 2), John, S(ingle), 26 and a Master Mariner, is with his father John, 58, Mariner and Fisherman and his stepmother, Mary, 49, at 43 Copper Hill Street, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales. Living with them are his half-brothers Richard, 13, David H(ughes), 10 and Owen (Davies), 5, and his half-sister Jane A(nne), 8, all Scholars and all born in Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales.

      From the 1901 Census (RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 37 Page 16) John, 36 and still a Master Mariner, was living with his second wife Maggie, 27, at 2 Cliffside, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales. With them were their sons John M(orris), 1, and Richard O(wen), 6 months.

      From the book 'A Real Little Seaport' :-

      510 WILLIAMS, JOHN (1865-) M.M. Aberdovey. A son of Capt. John Williams (b. 1833) by his wife Mary, he joined the schooner Jane Owens, commanded by his father, as Boy at Aberdovey 22/3/1877. His progress was rapid and he assumed command of the Jane Owens at Hull 5/7/1888. Sadly, the Jane Owens was lost off the Smalls 31/12/88 and the crew were formally discharged at Holyhead 2/1/1889. John Williams soon gained another command since in 1889 he was appointed Master of the schooner Sarah Davies (90 tons). His home ashore was then No.35 Copper Hill Street, though in 1891 (Census), aged 26 and single, he was under his parents' roof at No. 43 Copper Hill Street (a Master Mariner). Subject to a short break in1899, John Williams remained in command of the Sarah Davies until 1900 (the vessel was transferred to Dublin 30/12/1904). His home ashore was still No. 35 Copper Hill Street in 1900 when he was aged 35, but he seems to have moved to No. 2 Cliff Side, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales, at this time. He also became Master of the schooner Dovey Belle (84 tons). Built in 1867 at Aberdovey the Dovey Belle was registered No. 9 in 1867 at Aberystwyth and she became the last locally built sailing vessel to ply to and from Aberdovey on a regular basis. The Dovey Belle foundered off Grassholm 17/7/1907.FreeBMD: Possible birth registrations: 1) Machynlleth, qtr Mar 1864 (Vol 11B Page 193) NO 2) Machynlleth, qtr Mar 1866 (Vol 11B Page 193)

      1881 Census: Residence: 2 Cliffside, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales - incorrect, Cliffside is not in 1881 Census and was unoccupied in 1891!

      1897 Marriage certificate to Maggie: Residing at Grove Place, Aberdovey. Aged 31 on 10/02/1897. Married at Shiloh Chapel, Aberystwyth.

      1891 Census: Occupation: Master Mariner.

  • Sources 
    1. [S3961] Cornwall List (Reliability: 3), 13 Aug 2009.

    2. [S5417] 1911 England Census - Alive, (People who should be alive for the 1911 England and Wales Census) (Reliability: 3), 20 Jun 2010.

    3. [S6297] Temp Tag 9 II (Reliability: 3), 23 May 2011.

    4. [S760] RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87, (Vessel Mersey, Aberdovey, Merionethshire).

    5. [S359] RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8, (Vessel Jane Owens, Cornwall).

    6. [S386] RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 44 Page 2, (1891 Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales).

    7. [S404] RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 37 Page 16, (1901 Census for Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales).

    8. [S9441] Merionethshire Baptisms, ((http://search.findmypast.co.uk)), accessed 8 Mar 2015), Baptism for John WILLIAMS (832); 7 May 1865; Aberdyfi, Merionethshire, Wales. (Reliability: 3), 8 Mar 2015.
      First name(s)       JOHN
      Last name       WILLIAMS
      Birth year       1865
      Baptism year       1865
      Baptism day       7
      Baptism month       May
      Baptism place       ABERDYFI
      Father's first name(s)       John
      Mother's first name(s)       Elizabeth
      County       Merionethshire
      Country       Wales
      Record set       Merionethshire Baptisms
      Category       Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
      Subcategory       Births & baptisms
      Collections from       Great Britain
      http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbprs%2fwal%2f004393214%2f00565&parentid=gbprs%2fb%2f917077108%2f1&highlights=%22%22
      Baptism for John WILLIAMS (832)      		 Baptism for John WILLIAMS (832)


    9. [S760] RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87, (Vessel Mersey, Aberdovey, Merionethshire), RG10 Piece 5603 Folio 87 (Reliability: 3).

    10. [S970] RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8, (Vessel Jane Owens, Penzance, Cornwall), RG11 Piece 2348 Folio 130 Page 8 (Reliability: 3), 25 Mar 2007.

    11. [S906] RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 44 Page 2, (Aberdovey, Merionethshire), RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 44 Page 2 (Reliability: 3), 16 Mar 2007.

    12. [S1229] RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 37 Page 16, (Aberdovey, Merionethshire), RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 37 Page 16 (Reliability: 3), 17 Apr 2007.

    13. [S1854] Registration of Marriages, (Ancestry.co.uk), Mar 1863, Dolgelly, Merionethshire, Volume 11b, Page 563 (Reliability: 4), 15 Mar 2008.
      John WILLIAMS + Elizabeth MORRIS

    14. [S8519] England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 1 Feb 2014), John WILLIAMS + Maggie OWEN; Jan-Feb-Mar 1897, Aberystwith, Cardiganshire, Volume 11b Page 69. (Reliability: 3), 1 Feb 2014.

    15. [S8864] Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard, Cambrian News, ((http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk)), accessed 1 Feb 2014), Marriage between John Williams and Margaret Owen (407); 10 feb 1897. (Reliability: 3), 1 Feb 2014.
      WILLIAMS— OWEN.— February 10th, at Shiloh Chapel, Aberystwyth, by the Rev J. O. Thomas, Aberdovey, in the presence of Mr Tom Morgan, Pontrhydygroes, deputy registrar, Mr John Williams, Aberdovey, Mariner, to Miss Maggie Owen, Great Darkgate-street, Aberystwyth.
      Marriage between John Williams and Margaret Owen (407)      		 Marriage between John Williams and Margaret Owen (407)
      Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard


    16. [S8519] England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, ((http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)), accessed 1 Feb 2014), John WILLIAMS + Jane Ellen EVANS; Jul-Aug-Sep 1906, Aberystwith, Cardiganshire, Volume 11b Page 83. (Reliability: 3), 1 Feb 2014.

    17. [S8864] Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard, Cambrian News, ((http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk)), accessed 1 Feb 2014), Marriage between John Williams and Jane Ellen Evans; 20 Jul 1906. (Reliability: 3), 1 Feb 2014.
      MARRIAGES. Williams-Evans-On July 3rd, at Shiloh, Aberystwyth, by special licence, by the Rev John Davies, Bontddu, in the presence of the Registrar, Capt John Williams, of the "Dovey Belle," Aberdovey, to Jane Ellen, only surviving daughter of Mr. William Evans, formerly of Vanner Abbey, Llanelltyd.
      Marriage between John Williams and Jane Ellen Evans (406)      		 Marriage between John Williams and Jane Ellen Evans (406)
      Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard



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Initially, the Williams family from Aberdovey was the main target of research. Being a very busy port, Aberdyfi produced sea-faring families with many of the men reaching the pinnacle of their trade as Master Mariners. My grandfather, John Davies Williams, served as a 'Boy' aboard the schooner Sarah Davies at the age of 13.

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