{"id":1136,"date":"2020-08-17T20:12:32","date_gmt":"2020-08-17T19:12:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/?p=1136"},"modified":"2020-08-18T08:55:04","modified_gmt":"2020-08-18T07:55:04","slug":"john-williams-and-mary-lewis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/john-williams-and-mary-lewis\/","title":{"rendered":"John Williams and Mary Lewis"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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Second cousin once removed, Meriel, and her husband Ian gathered a great deal of information on the Williams family by viewing original Towyn Parish register Baptism Records in Dolgellau a while ago. Whilst they were looking for the baptism records for the children of (2x Hen Taid) John Williams and Mary Lewis, they also found a possible marriage between a John William and a Mary Lewis in the Pennal register. This marriage was dated 1 March 1824, but shows John as a widower and Mary as a widow. For a long time this has been the accepted marriage date but it has always bothered me that the first child (Jane) born to John and Mary was four years after their alleged marriage.<\/p>

Whilst researching this marriage again I found this entry in the FindMyPast Merionethshire Marriages and Banns<\/a>:<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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Banns of Marriage for John William and Mary Lewis (click to enlarge)<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t
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Banns of Marriage between John William, now and for several years, occupier of Bonyraer, farmer, and Mary Lewis of Bryndu, of which farm she has been tenant for the last Ten years – both of this Parish
\u00a0Published February 15th\u00a0\u00a0 D. Davies P. Curate.
\u00a0Published February 22nd\u00a0 D. Davies P. Curate.
\u00a0Published February 29th\u00a0\u00a0 D. Davies P. Curate.
\u00a0\u00a0 Celebrated.<\/em><\/p>

And then, quite by accident, I discovered this Burial Record for a Catherine William<\/a> on the FindMyPast website:<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t

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As you can see, Catherine William (born 1772) was reported as living at Bonyraer at the time of her death in 1822.<\/p>

This John William may have married Mary Lewis after the death of his previous wife, Catherine. Our John Williams would have been 25 at the time of Catherine’s death, whereas she was 50. Of course, Catherine could have been John William’s mother. But then our John’s mother was Margaret.<\/p>

My conclusion: The marriage we have assumed to be that of John Williams and Mary Lewis on 1st March 1824 is the wrong one. More research was required!<\/p>

Since the initial research was carried out a lot has happened in the world of genealogy. Many more records are now available online. Mary Lewis was from Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire, so let’s search there<\/a>. It turns out that a John Williams from Towyn, married a Mary Lewis from Llanbrynmair on 15th May 1827. This is the record we have been looking for.<\/p>

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It is interesting to note that one of the witnesses to the marriage was Athelston Owen, a name well known in Aberdyfi. This Athelston Owen, however, was not the one responsible for donating the Dovey Inn to the village.<\/p>

From Ancestry: Born in Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire, Wales on 25 Jun 1783 to Richard Owen and Jane Frances. Athelstan Owen married Jane Jones and had 1 child. He passed away on 4 Jan 1839 in Llanbrynmair, Montgomeryshire, Wales.<\/em><\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Our 2x great grandparents Second cousin once removed, Meriel, and her husband Ian gathered a great deal of information on the Williams family by viewing original Towyn Parish register Baptism Records in Dolgellau a while ago. Whilst they were looking for the baptism records for the children of (2x Hen Taid) John Williams and Mary […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1167,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"default","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"default","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[3,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1136","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-family-tree","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1136","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1136"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1136\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1185,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1136\/revisions\/1185"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1167"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1136"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1136"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/williamsfamilytree.uk\/pw\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1136"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}